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  <itunes:subtitle>Log4Shell has set the internet on fire this week. Noah and Steve dig into the details of this vulnerability as well as discuss what you can do to mitigate it. Pop_OS 21.10 is out, Toyota make their keyfob a service, and CentOS 8 goes EOL at the end of the year.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>-- During The Show --
00:45 Steve's OpenSuse Experience
Splash Screen
Kernel Panic
03:10 Caller Ed
Best VM server
Proxmox (https://www.proxmox.com/en/)
Libvirt (https://libvirt.org/) + Cockpit (https://cockpit-project.org/)
Ovirt (https://www.ovirt.org/)
08:08 Sleuth Asked
Is there software to send and receive audio over the network that work on phones and Linux machines? My usecase is I want to listen to podcasts from antennapod on my computer and to monitor jitsi and mumble from my phone.
Alsa Mixer
IceCast (https://icecast.org/)
09:58 TwoBit Asked
Still using the Google Glass?
Yes
10:43 Docker Server - Mathieu
TLS/HTTPS is more than a cert
HAProxy (https://www.haproxy.org/)/Nginx Reverse Proxy
Check documentation for the project
Security is more than closing ports
LetsEncrypt (https://letsencrypt.org/)
19:25 Archiving Emails? - Jose
Download an archive + Thunderbird
23:26 SIP Questions - Andrew
3CX SBC (https://www.3cx.com/docs/3cx-tunnel-session-border-controller/)
Upgrade Router to PFSense/OPNSense
28:10 Pick of the Week
CasaOS (https://www.casaos.io/)
Help Net Security Article (https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/12/13/casaos-home-cloud-system/)
Based on Docker
Easy Self Hosted Services
30:23 Gadget of the Week
M5stick (https://shop.m5stack.com/products/m5stickc-plus-esp32-pico-mini-iot-development-kit?variant=35275856609444)
$14 ESP32 Dev Kit
32:52 Centos 8 EOL
ZDNet Article (https://www.zdnet.com/article/centos-linux-8-is-about-to-die-what-do-you-do-next/)
CentOS EOL Dec 31 2021
Zero Day security patches until Jan 31 2022
Options
Red Hat Proper
Free Red Hat Developer License's
CentOS Stream (https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/)
Alma Linux (https://almalinux.org/)
Cloud Linux OS
Rocky Linux
38:00 Toyota Makes Keyfob a Service
The Drive Article (https://www.thedrive.com/news/43329/toyota-made-its-key-fob-remote-start-into-a-subscription-service)
Requiring subscription to use local keyfob functions
40:38 Pop!_OS 21.10 Released
System76 Blog Post (https://blog.system76.com/post/670564272872488960/popos-2110-has-landed)
Tech preview of Pop!_OS 21.10 for the RaspberryPi
System Refresh feature
Lots of new features 
42:44 Main Segment - log4j Vulnerability
CVE-2021-44228
Remote Code Execution
Actively being exploited in the wild
Used in embedded and IOT devices as well
Minecraft Exploit Example (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qoPDq41xhQ)
2.14.1 and earlier vulnerable
Fixed in Log4j 2.15.0
Github Attack Surface List (https://github.com/YfryTchsGD/Log4jAttackSurface)
Responsible disclosure was not followed
Alternative mitigations available
Flip the environmental variable ES JAVA OPTS= -D log4j2.formatMsgNoLookups=True
Cloudflare Mitigation (https://blog.cloudflare.com/cve-2021-44228-log4j-rce-0-day-mitigation/)
Help Net Security Article (https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/12/12/week-in-review-apache-log4j-0day-exploited-kali-linux-2021-4-released-patch-tuesday-forecast/)
Fortune Article (https://fortune.com/2021/12/13/cyber-security-log4j-hacker-breach/)
We Live Securtiy Article (https://www.welivesecurity.com/2021/12/13/log4shell-vulnerability-what-we-know-so-far/)
The Next Web Article (https://thenextweb.com/news/log4j-bug-internet-open-source-contributors-analysis)
--  The Extra Credit Section --
For links to the articles and material referenced in this week's episode check out this week's page from our podcast dashboard!
This Episode's Podcast Dashboard (http://podcast.asknoahshow.com/263)
Phone Systems for Ask Noah provided by Voxtelesys (http://www.voxtelesys.com/asknoah)
Join us in our dedicated chatroom #GeekLab:linuxdelta.com on Matrix (https://element.linuxdelta.com/#/room/#geeklab:linuxdelta.com)
-- Stay In Touch --
Find all the resources for this show on the Ask Noah Dashboard
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Need more help than a radio show can offer? Altispeed provides commercial IT services and they’re excited to offer you a great deal for listening to the Ask Noah Show. Call today and ask about the discount for listeners of the Ask Noah Show!
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Contact Noah
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    <![CDATA[<h3><strong>-- During The Show --</strong></h3>

<h4>00:45 Steve&#39;s OpenSuse Experience</h4>

<ul>
<li>Splash Screen</li>
<li>Kernel Panic</li>
</ul>

<h4>03:10 Caller Ed</h4>

<ul>
<li>Best VM server</li>
<li><a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/" rel="nofollow">Proxmox</a></li>
<li><a href="https://libvirt.org/" rel="nofollow">Libvirt</a> + <a href="https://cockpit-project.org/" rel="nofollow">Cockpit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ovirt.org/" rel="nofollow">Ovirt</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>08:08 Sleuth Asked</h4>

<ul>
<li>Is there software to send and receive audio over the network that work on phones and Linux machines? My usecase is I want to listen to podcasts from antennapod on my computer and to monitor jitsi and mumble from my phone.</li>
<li>Alsa Mixer</li>
<li><a href="https://icecast.org/" rel="nofollow">IceCast</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>09:58 TwoBit Asked</h4>

<ul>
<li>Still using the Google Glass?</li>
<li>Yes</li>
</ul>

<h4>10:43 Docker Server - Mathieu</h4>

<ul>
<li>TLS/HTTPS is more than a cert</li>
<li><a href="https://www.haproxy.org/" rel="nofollow">HAProxy</a>/Nginx Reverse Proxy</li>
<li>Check documentation for the project</li>
<li>Security is more than closing ports</li>
<li><a href="https://letsencrypt.org/" rel="nofollow">LetsEncrypt</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>19:25 Archiving Emails? - Jose</h4>

<ul>
<li>Download an archive + Thunderbird</li>
</ul>

<h4>23:26 SIP Questions - Andrew</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.3cx.com/docs/3cx-tunnel-session-border-controller/" rel="nofollow">3CX SBC</a></li>
<li>Upgrade Router to PFSense/OPNSense</li>
</ul>

<h4>28:10 Pick of the Week</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.casaos.io/" rel="nofollow">CasaOS</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/12/13/casaos-home-cloud-system/" rel="nofollow">Help Net Security Article</a></li>
<li>Based on Docker</li>
<li>Easy Self Hosted Services</li>
</ul>

<h4>30:23 Gadget of the Week</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://shop.m5stack.com/products/m5stickc-plus-esp32-pico-mini-iot-development-kit?variant=35275856609444" rel="nofollow">M5stick</a></li>
<li>$14 ESP32 Dev Kit</li>
</ul>

<h4>32:52 Centos 8 EOL</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/centos-linux-8-is-about-to-die-what-do-you-do-next/" rel="nofollow">ZDNet Article</a></li>
<li>CentOS EOL Dec 31 2021</li>
<li>Zero Day security patches until Jan 31 2022</li>
<li>Options

<ul>
<li>Red Hat Proper</li>
<li>Free Red Hat Developer License&#39;s</li>
<li><a href="https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/" rel="nofollow">CentOS Stream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://almalinux.org/" rel="nofollow">Alma Linux</a></li>
<li>Cloud Linux OS</li>
<li>Rocky Linux</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h4>38:00 Toyota Makes Keyfob a Service</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.thedrive.com/news/43329/toyota-made-its-key-fob-remote-start-into-a-subscription-service" rel="nofollow">The Drive Article</a></li>
<li>Requiring subscription to use local keyfob functions</li>
</ul>

<h4>40:38 Pop!_OS 21.10 Released</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.system76.com/post/670564272872488960/popos-2110-has-landed" rel="nofollow">System76 Blog Post</a></li>
<li>Tech preview of Pop!_OS 21.10 for the RaspberryPi</li>
<li>System Refresh feature</li>
<li>Lots of new features </li>
</ul>

<h4>42:44 Main Segment - log4j Vulnerability</h4>

<ul>
<li>CVE-2021-44228</li>
<li>Remote Code Execution</li>
<li>Actively being exploited in the wild</li>
<li>Used in embedded and IOT devices as well</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qoPDq41xhQ" rel="nofollow">Minecraft Exploit Example</a></li>
<li>2.14.1 and earlier vulnerable</li>
<li>Fixed in Log4j 2.15.0</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/YfryTchsGD/Log4jAttackSurface" rel="nofollow">Github Attack Surface List</a></li>
<li>Responsible disclosure was not followed</li>
<li>Alternative mitigations available</li>
<li>Flip the environmental variable ES JAVA OPTS= -D log4j2.formatMsgNoLookups=True</li>
<li><a href="https://blog.cloudflare.com/cve-2021-44228-log4j-rce-0-day-mitigation/" rel="nofollow">Cloudflare Mitigation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/12/12/week-in-review-apache-log4j-0day-exploited-kali-linux-2021-4-released-patch-tuesday-forecast/" rel="nofollow">Help Net Security Article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fortune.com/2021/12/13/cyber-security-log4j-hacker-breach/" rel="nofollow">Fortune Article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.welivesecurity.com/2021/12/13/log4shell-vulnerability-what-we-know-so-far/" rel="nofollow">We Live Securtiy Article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://thenextweb.com/news/log4j-bug-internet-open-source-contributors-analysis" rel="nofollow">The Next Web Article</a></li>
</ul>

<h3><strong>--  The Extra Credit Section --</strong></h3>

<p>For links to the articles and material referenced in this week&#39;s episode check out this week&#39;s page from our podcast dashboard!</p>

<p><a href="http://podcast.asknoahshow.com/263" rel="nofollow">This Episode&#39;s Podcast Dashboard</a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.voxtelesys.com/asknoah" rel="nofollow">Phone Systems for Ask Noah provided by Voxtelesys</a></p>

<p>Join us in our dedicated chatroom <a href="https://element.linuxdelta.com/#/room/#geeklab:linuxdelta.com" rel="nofollow">#GeekLab:linuxdelta.com on Matrix</a></p>

<h3><strong>-- Stay In Touch --</strong></h3>

<p><strong>Find all the resources for this show on the Ask Noah Dashboard</strong></p>

<blockquote>
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<p><strong>Need more help than a radio show can offer? Altispeed provides commercial IT services and they’re excited to offer you a great deal for listening to the Ask Noah Show. Call today and ask about the discount for listeners of the Ask Noah Show!</strong></p>

<blockquote>
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</blockquote>

<p><strong>Contact Noah</strong></p>

<blockquote>
<p>live [at] asknoahshow.com</p>
</blockquote>

<p><strong>-- Twitter --</strong></p>

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<li><a href="https://twitter.com/kernellinux" rel="nofollow">Noah - Kernellinux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/asknoahshow" rel="nofollow">Ask Noah Show</a></li>
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</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/linuxdelta">Support Ask Noah Show</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<h3><strong>-- During The Show --</strong></h3>

<h4>00:45 Steve&#39;s OpenSuse Experience</h4>

<ul>
<li>Splash Screen</li>
<li>Kernel Panic</li>
</ul>

<h4>03:10 Caller Ed</h4>

<ul>
<li>Best VM server</li>
<li><a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/" rel="nofollow">Proxmox</a></li>
<li><a href="https://libvirt.org/" rel="nofollow">Libvirt</a> + <a href="https://cockpit-project.org/" rel="nofollow">Cockpit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ovirt.org/" rel="nofollow">Ovirt</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>08:08 Sleuth Asked</h4>

<ul>
<li>Is there software to send and receive audio over the network that work on phones and Linux machines? My usecase is I want to listen to podcasts from antennapod on my computer and to monitor jitsi and mumble from my phone.</li>
<li>Alsa Mixer</li>
<li><a href="https://icecast.org/" rel="nofollow">IceCast</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>09:58 TwoBit Asked</h4>

<ul>
<li>Still using the Google Glass?</li>
<li>Yes</li>
</ul>

<h4>10:43 Docker Server - Mathieu</h4>

<ul>
<li>TLS/HTTPS is more than a cert</li>
<li><a href="https://www.haproxy.org/" rel="nofollow">HAProxy</a>/Nginx Reverse Proxy</li>
<li>Check documentation for the project</li>
<li>Security is more than closing ports</li>
<li><a href="https://letsencrypt.org/" rel="nofollow">LetsEncrypt</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>19:25 Archiving Emails? - Jose</h4>

<ul>
<li>Download an archive + Thunderbird</li>
</ul>

<h4>23:26 SIP Questions - Andrew</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.3cx.com/docs/3cx-tunnel-session-border-controller/" rel="nofollow">3CX SBC</a></li>
<li>Upgrade Router to PFSense/OPNSense</li>
</ul>

<h4>28:10 Pick of the Week</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.casaos.io/" rel="nofollow">CasaOS</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/12/13/casaos-home-cloud-system/" rel="nofollow">Help Net Security Article</a></li>
<li>Based on Docker</li>
<li>Easy Self Hosted Services</li>
</ul>

<h4>30:23 Gadget of the Week</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://shop.m5stack.com/products/m5stickc-plus-esp32-pico-mini-iot-development-kit?variant=35275856609444" rel="nofollow">M5stick</a></li>
<li>$14 ESP32 Dev Kit</li>
</ul>

<h4>32:52 Centos 8 EOL</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/centos-linux-8-is-about-to-die-what-do-you-do-next/" rel="nofollow">ZDNet Article</a></li>
<li>CentOS EOL Dec 31 2021</li>
<li>Zero Day security patches until Jan 31 2022</li>
<li>Options

<ul>
<li>Red Hat Proper</li>
<li>Free Red Hat Developer License&#39;s</li>
<li><a href="https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/" rel="nofollow">CentOS Stream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://almalinux.org/" rel="nofollow">Alma Linux</a></li>
<li>Cloud Linux OS</li>
<li>Rocky Linux</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<h4>38:00 Toyota Makes Keyfob a Service</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.thedrive.com/news/43329/toyota-made-its-key-fob-remote-start-into-a-subscription-service" rel="nofollow">The Drive Article</a></li>
<li>Requiring subscription to use local keyfob functions</li>
</ul>

<h4>40:38 Pop!_OS 21.10 Released</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://blog.system76.com/post/670564272872488960/popos-2110-has-landed" rel="nofollow">System76 Blog Post</a></li>
<li>Tech preview of Pop!_OS 21.10 for the RaspberryPi</li>
<li>System Refresh feature</li>
<li>Lots of new features </li>
</ul>

<h4>42:44 Main Segment - log4j Vulnerability</h4>

<ul>
<li>CVE-2021-44228</li>
<li>Remote Code Execution</li>
<li>Actively being exploited in the wild</li>
<li>Used in embedded and IOT devices as well</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qoPDq41xhQ" rel="nofollow">Minecraft Exploit Example</a></li>
<li>2.14.1 and earlier vulnerable</li>
<li>Fixed in Log4j 2.15.0</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/YfryTchsGD/Log4jAttackSurface" rel="nofollow">Github Attack Surface List</a></li>
<li>Responsible disclosure was not followed</li>
<li>Alternative mitigations available</li>
<li>Flip the environmental variable ES JAVA OPTS= -D log4j2.formatMsgNoLookups=True</li>
<li><a href="https://blog.cloudflare.com/cve-2021-44228-log4j-rce-0-day-mitigation/" rel="nofollow">Cloudflare Mitigation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/12/12/week-in-review-apache-log4j-0day-exploited-kali-linux-2021-4-released-patch-tuesday-forecast/" rel="nofollow">Help Net Security Article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fortune.com/2021/12/13/cyber-security-log4j-hacker-breach/" rel="nofollow">Fortune Article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.welivesecurity.com/2021/12/13/log4shell-vulnerability-what-we-know-so-far/" rel="nofollow">We Live Securtiy Article</a></li>
<li><a href="https://thenextweb.com/news/log4j-bug-internet-open-source-contributors-analysis" rel="nofollow">The Next Web Article</a></li>
</ul>

<h3><strong>--  The Extra Credit Section --</strong></h3>

<p>For links to the articles and material referenced in this week&#39;s episode check out this week&#39;s page from our podcast dashboard!</p>

<p><a href="http://podcast.asknoahshow.com/263" rel="nofollow">This Episode&#39;s Podcast Dashboard</a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.voxtelesys.com/asknoah" rel="nofollow">Phone Systems for Ask Noah provided by Voxtelesys</a></p>

<p>Join us in our dedicated chatroom <a href="https://element.linuxdelta.com/#/room/#geeklab:linuxdelta.com" rel="nofollow">#GeekLab:linuxdelta.com on Matrix</a></p>

<h3><strong>-- Stay In Touch --</strong></h3>

<p><strong>Find all the resources for this show on the Ask Noah Dashboard</strong></p>

<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.asknoahshow.com" rel="nofollow">Ask Noah Dashboard</a></p>
</blockquote>

<p><strong>Need more help than a radio show can offer? Altispeed provides commercial IT services and they’re excited to offer you a great deal for listening to the Ask Noah Show. Call today and ask about the discount for listeners of the Ask Noah Show!</strong></p>

<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.altispeed.com/" rel="nofollow">Altispeed Technologies</a></p>
</blockquote>

<p><strong>Contact Noah</strong></p>

<blockquote>
<p>live [at] asknoahshow.com</p>
</blockquote>

<p><strong>-- Twitter --</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/kernellinux" rel="nofollow">Noah - Kernellinux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/asknoahshow" rel="nofollow">Ask Noah Show</a></li>
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</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/linuxdelta">Support Ask Noah Show</a></p>]]>
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